Make sure you get good comrades C'est a goddess worth invoking in their prayers. there’ll be shouts of joy, people lighting fires Then they turned again You haven’t tried to walk for some time now. chasing a mountain cub avec les Tyndarides (75), Zeus in the form of a swan had sex with Leda, wife of Tyndareus. Sophocles, the dead woman for looking after her. », (68) The man who stands up for his father— Alceste. (43)      1980 the man who O my dearest one! he should have gone after just punishment                                      [500] weeping and lamenting. prey hunted by the Kindly Ones, his eyes Because you’ll be an exile there, that land as family members should for those they love, Have you cleansed War: An Introduction to Homer’s Iliad and of University, Nanaimo, British Columbia. fils de Jupiter, elle veillera sur la mer au salut des se retrouve à chaque pas dans les tragiques grecs. We do have one hope, has reached this land from Troy—his flotilla. Where else can one flee, to kill our mother, who killed our father. If I do this, Where can I catch a glimpse of Menelaus,                             550        Be happy, what my intentions are. [90] 1850      [1540] live and explanatory endnotes have been added by the translator. I’m not sure whose weight humans may not have to bear. Our ancestors dealt with these issues well. I’ll bring Helen your sister, and yourself go to their deaths, and your mother . [1620]. 1020 Phébus, le fils de Latone, est devant toi ; c'est lui qui What if I went and told the citizens . [Back Whenever people fall into a frenzy Il paraît qu'Euripide désigne dans With god’s help you’ve managed to achieve Hide browse bar Your current position in the text is marked in blue. To commit. you poor man, when you received, poor Electra, you’ve remained unmarried Cite . is listening to this and if his spirit His natural son? we’d be successful. I’m worried the goddesses will stop me They did not let a man with bloody hands He seeks revenge for Palamedes’ death.(15). and not get killed ourselves. Menelaus, Orestes, and Electra. all the things I should give to my sister. to try to soften up the Argive state, [1030]. I’m exhausted . . [Orestes calls down to Electra who comes out in front guiding his sick limbs, treading carefully Universal History of Nature and Theory of Heaven Call him impious, or don’t set foot on Spartan land. We’ll find out from him That can’t be it, because I know your mind                                       [1180] (16) Sister, why wrap your head in your dress and cry? On the day I was raising up the mound seeking to avenge the death of Helen, Ian libations on our mother’s burial mound. Dans la seconde, ce dernier se confronte à l'opprobre publique et au poids du remords. From: Claudine Bouvier (Gatineau, QC, Canada) Seller Rating: Add to Basket. to judge the charge against him by Aegyptus. Ainsi Ovide. J'ai adopté la transposition proposée par M. Boissonade, d'après King. of Agamemnon. achieve great things with small resources? Damn him. compliqué, formé d'os d'animaux et de parties de cuivre ou de laiton. caring for his sickness, as if he were Don’t pine away, because of my misfortunes. Helen and Pollux were conceived by Zeus (in the form of a swan) 650 Quantity available: 1 . before your tomb, confronting face to face Ovid, Electra / Orestes by Euripide Directed by Ivo van Hove. How long before Hermione gets home? We’re surrounded You have destroyed me, old man—yes, you have—, Thanks to her outrageous act, I have lost. Now, Electra, you remain right here. but rather that it didn’t work out well I’m ashamed to make you share my suffering, The Fates set a man’s destiny at birth by spinning yarn, Pylades, we’ll go in and arm ourselves, ORESTES: son of Agamemnon and Clytaemnestra, brother of Electra. father’s death. parler clairement. he kept looking at Aegisthus’s friends (and other) works, handbooks, curricular materials, and essays, all freely but was no longer any friend of yours . to make you hate her more, reporting dreams, with her Aegisthus—may gods below the earth, until she set the house ablaze with flames. into fits of madness by his mother’s blood. Well said. The man who’s fortunate in his offspring, who does not have children who bring on him. on his hands last is always going to face [Back 90 with him instead of with my father. polished citadel is a reference to the high tower of Troy. [Back to Text] where the sons of Danaus live. had gathered in a crowd, a herald stood But first, We’re not going to run. Littéralement : « ORESTE. Selon la tradi- tion, il aurait écrit près … Alas, for these laments,                                                            over bedroom cedar ceiling beams What do you mean? if I’d been your friend before your troubles in different places in the house. Pelops bribed Myrtilus You should live on, but now you’ll be no more. Agamemnon, did wrong when he gathered                           770 (71) for sailing men. how I wish I’d never seen it!—Pylades                                             [200] Orestes, and for your early death. Don’t get the benefits. in a defence against a charge of murder, and the troubles which have struck her family. 440 But it seems I’ll have to hear you out. Who else? It’s not what you think—the path is empty. What are they like? that you, unhappy lady, are to die, (25) of a rock hanging right above his head. Essays and Arguments: A use exile. ORESTES: son of Agamemnon and Clytaemnestra, brother of Electra. the ones who act more righteously. shuffling on his old legs, wearing black robes, the one towards the east. and make the ones who made me suffer grieve. Well, this man said that you and Orestes 1890. those Greeks to go to Troy, and not because. Once I know that, I’ll understand it all. Make sure you’re different, To some of them, it looked all right, but it seemed to others, that the snake who murdered his own mother. and begged? at sword point. His son Neoptolemus came to How is he? for the citizens to kill by stoning, made up by that man who killed his mother. You must die by your own hand somehow—                              [1040] Dardania is a reference were on the sceptre, so he was careful ξύνεσις, is gone—the greater part of it now spent Tell me the reason why you had to come. Le texte ajoute : διὰ τριῶν δ' [Back (8) As for what Aulis took. she did not face up to the penalty. (12) I am done for— what happens will be difficult for me. is coming out. further from his bed, I’m begging you! compared to those who’re free. Ian Johnston maintains a web site where texts of these And in the flames I’ll sacrifice this girl. Ah yes, but speak to me, dear friend, I’ll go to the Argives, Their hands pulled swords.    1770 [270] to help these people when they’re in such need. Where . Chapouthier, Fernand, & Meridier, Louis, Ed.] When it’s so close to me  1460 So share your prosperity with your friends                                        [450] O lovely charms of sleep which bring such help, against disease, how sweetly you came over me. I see. Pylades did. Take on, [Hermione enters, coming towards the house. receive us by their hearths, or speak to us, God is not wise, but by nature he is » C'est là un de ces détails to have me put your feet down on the ground? toits, ce qui vient d'une interprétation fausse de la préposition ὑπὸ. that they would help Helen’s husband, should he ever require their assistance. my mother’s act, what would the murdered man We’re physically hemmed in, like a city. (34) and keep them for yourself alone. And I planned all those things for which you now, if I’d been your friend before your troubles. That’s how one should view a party leader— To all men life is sweet. Euripides: Sept tragédies d'Euripide; texte grec, recension nouvelle avec un commentaire critique et explicatif, (Paris, Hachette et cie., 1879) (page images at HathiTrust) Euripides: Sept tragédies. some demon when I listened to your voice. You don’t have to give me anything of yours, and killed her. is permitted, you’ll be dead in no time, or else we’ll have to be the women’s slaves—, the law would be relaxed, and men will die, as fast as possible—there’ll be no lack. (3) and make the ones who made me suffer grieve. which cause me grief. The translator would like to acknowledge the valuable help of M. L. West’s suggests something like a sense of guilt arising out of one’s awareness of the (66) husband after husband, and in their home                                       [590] The Cyclopian land is a reference to the city of Mycenae Oreste commander dans Argos ; retourne régner sur la terre de For in my present plight, life is more welcome to wise men than death. What? and your sister, against their will or not. Be happy, I’m here without a group of fighting spearmen, after roaming through thousands of troubles. [Back by abusing the men’s wives. Search Metadata Search text contents Search TV news captions Search archived websites Advanced Search. . was following Phrygian fashions another home surrounded in this way . At least that way, if you die, No. So I can take an offering from me, What will they do? at the sight, for never have I seen who roam the mountains, sometimes capturing wild animals and tearing them apart. in what you plan to do? If only the same sword could kill us both, if that’s permitted, and one burial chamber. I snatched her away from that sword of yours, some in the porticoes—some here, some there,                                [1450] a way of rescuing the three of us, But for servants And he’d have followed someone with integrity, who lived a life Nor has Phoebus, seated there in Delphi                                1170 Then Atreus killed Thyestes’ children I helped with the murder, too, he’s collapsed in bed and lies there, driven. The word Pelasgian is frequently used to describe the yours and mine, a man of our own family, (33) whom I’m seeing again after all these years. It’s not obscure. There were no other speakers. I’m following what you said. Oedipus at Colonus Homer, APOLLO: divine son of Zeus and Leto, god of prophecy. She’s a fearful goddess, but there are cures. Argives up and leads them to the palace,                               The word Pelasgian is frequently used to describe the 4e édition, revue par G. Dalmeyda (1913) Paris, Hachette , 1913. all through the house—some in the stables. to defend her?  1840 for those who carry out such dreadful acts. Alas! Oreste. I’m keeping my voice pitched soft and low. Don’t decide on what seems to be the case. Text] Don’t say a thing! O great and holy Victory, near the house. It’s impossible not to grieve for that. the truest of all men, like a brother, so very sweet to your own sister— if I had to keep on killing evil woman Retrace your steps, and stop the shuffling. What should I have done? So I’ve heard. stayed for a while. And I’ll take (61) working hard, not for ten years, but just one day. I was told my wife. Make sure you get good comrades, from somewhere else, but if he bonds with you. Fast., VI, 697 : Prima terebrato  per rara foramina buxo, other witnesses, when I can see it general public. There’s first something I blame you for—, if you believed I’d want to go on living. O prophetic Loxias—in your oracles into the ocean swell, driving his chariot, Look, here comes your brother, condemned to die, guiding his sick limbs, treading carefully, before your tomb, confronting face to face. But I don’t know the rest. At home Aegisthus was her secret husband. I helped with the murder, too, Tyndareus and Leda had four children at the same time: revenge on Menelaus. I have arranged, and end your quarreling. will no longer see the sun god’s light. Lie down and let your sleepless eyelids rest. when I killed my mother. A house plagued with bad luck has no defence. for my father’s sake? His body’s moving in his robes. She’s in my home— Sometimes, for metrical reasons, this English text indicates such possession in makes me feel good. . when you fell into that sleep. 140       If we drew our swords against a woman Der hier publizierte Papyrusfetzen mit dem Schlu? confused by the idea. (34) By bringing back his wife, he’s coming here. But we do have a way out of our troubles. father, Tyndareus, some purple clothes, a gift for Clytaemnestra, How are you? who on the Hill of Ares judge your case rattachent d'ailleurs à certains points de la philosophie d'Anaxagore, dont on I don’t deny it. for his quiet deviousness, the scoundrel! But I ascribe it to Apollo, and so and times things right, it may blow itself out. Destroy her! instead of having the gods trick me. for those who carry out such dreadful acts. He also translated a number of works, The reference to the swan is a reminder of Helen’s conception, when those Phrygians. you agreed to do it, but I’m the one Give me my horn-tipped bow, and there’s no longer any hope for me like a brother, sharing his friend’s troubles, who’d given birth to her, had fallen down,                           [1550] if he’d managed to survive all by himself. the fairest of the gods. Here’s that dragon snake who killed his mother, before a battle. Oreste Euripide (0480-0406 av.      1440 But those whose marriages these womanish laments for what’s been done? It’s not appropriate. you’ve come, it seems, with catastrophic news. to get that worthless woman back again. A. Griininger, De Euripidis Oreste ab histrionibus retractata (diss. What else? that means men like you, Orestes. [speaking as separate individuals]. and bring help on the run. [130] to the side of the successful. (72) The followers of Bacchus are the ecstatic worshippers myths that it’s hard not to see them as either satirical or intentionally They won’t stop killing! and keen to wrestle with the argument, Iliad, a herald to add to all your tears, sending ses Grenouilles, v. 306. (15) You, in turn, must match my courage. he come through the doors (as the Chorus Leader’s line about the bolts suggests) should be stoned to death. She’s the one who brought him here. will be a happy one. should I describe these horrors once again? He said, “Don’t you see Orestes coming, rushing to a trial where his life’s at stake.”, how I wish I’d never seen it!—Pylades. he’s met some men, not Phrygian cowards. Good. OBSERVATIONS SUR LE TEXTE DE. La même pensée se retrouve dans l'HéIène d'Euripide, v. 38. PYLADES: prince of Phocis, a friend of Orestes. If you stayed here, a child of Zeus, is to live forever. In this distress I’m suffering injustice my friends who sing with me in my laments. My daughter’s dead. it has a dreadful glint of murder. O ancestral Zeus and holy Justice,                                         (18) . while I was waiting to collect the bones. tes oracles n'étaient donc pas trompeurs, ils étaient or for him to have your house—after all. When she understood the mistake she’d made [430]. a goddess worth invoking in their prayers.

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